"Nothing is ending, neither the COVID-19 nor the pandemic," said Debora MacKenzie, a leading science journalist who currently lives in France. "Lots of governments in the West use slogans such as 'living with COVID' to make their citizens happy but we need to make sure that people have access to the truth," she said.

MacKenzie has been reporting on emerging diseases for more than 30 years and wrote a book to explain how COVID-19 turned into a global pandemic as early as 2020. She recently published an article on the Guardian, challenging the false narratives about COVID that caused needless deaths and calling for rethink of epidemic control in the era of Omicron.

Is Omicron a big flu? What are the facts behind the "living with COVID" slogan?  Could we lift control measures? You may find the answers through the exclusive interview with Debora MacKenzie.